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Thread: The Seeker Cast Episode #09 – S2 E10 Perdition

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    Albino Mosquito
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    The Seeker Cast Episode #09 – S2 E10 Perdition

    You can find our latest podcast discussing the episode 'Perdition' here...

    http://www.theseekercast.com/2010/02...e10-perdition/

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    Thanks,

    Kevin

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    demon
    Guest

    This was the first episode that had the book lover in me throw his hands up in the air and say "What are they doing". This episode was a step backwards for me because I could predict the outcome of Leo and Cara. I would rather have seen a struggle between Leo and Richard for the right of Seeker( that is what I thought might happen and was why Kahlan wasnt named Seeker. She was breifly named in the books). Cara would have been torn between her loyalties but once again another great character momment missed. The pacing is too fast!!!

    Why were the sisters of the dark engaging in hand to hand combat? If you dont have a budget for a full scale magic fight, just script Nicci into that scene(I know the producers want 2 to 3 fighting sequences per episode). The sisters's music cue was very good though.

    Why in some episodes our heroes have horses then then others they are walking?

    I'm glad to see the D'Harran baddies have been replaced by a Baneling army for the fight sequences. With Richard revealed to be the Lord Rahl it wouldnt have made sense for D'harran attacks to continue.

    I have the feeling The Creator is going to show up and "she" will give Richard back his War Wizzard powers. Just like in season one a second Book Of Counted Shadows was revealed. The Seeker will need those powers for the upcoming struggles.

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    Shadrin
    Join Date: Jan 2010
    Location: Belgium
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    The reason I really like this episode is because it is about Richard’s character development. We see his worst fears displayed, which makes him very vulnerable and human, and we also see him break through the perdition spell purely because of his character and his bond with Kahlan. Imo this touches the core of the books. In general about the series, I love how all the characters have a mix of positive characteristics (contributing to the quest) and flaws. It makes them human and provides great character development and story telling.

    I think it is very significant that Richard breaks through the spell without any kind of power. As I already posted in another thread (yes I am full of it ) his personal characteristics are what make him qualify to be the seeker, not the other way around. He is not any regular guy, but he is “Richard”, who is deeply in love with an extraordinary woman, who is chosen to be the Seeker and to pursue the quest, and he will always look for the truth and reality behind things from his (sometimes completely different/unexpected) perspective and act according his own instincts … neglecting traditions, conventions and prophecies. It also makes him kind of a rebel and I dig it. This attitude is what makes Richard “Richard”, and it is why he qualifies to be the seeker, and not the other way around (he doesn’t have these qualities because he is the seeker, but because he is Richard). So I am not surprised he is the first person in 3000 years to break out of the perdition spell.

    Also, I am no too worried about him not having his powers back yet. I am sure that at some point in the future he will get them back. But I believe it serves much better story telling for him not to have his powers or not being able to use them because of circumstances … . I won’t go into detail, but in the books TG makes a big effort to make sure that Richard’s ability to use his powers is limited (by all kind of means). If not, the story would be reduced to “Hi, I am the greatest wizard ever, I can beat everybody. Nice to meet you. The end.” (I know I am exaggerating, but I am doing it to make a point.)

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    Night Wisp
    Join Date: Jan 2010
    Posts: 39

    Quote Originally Posted by farlotsfan View Post
    The reason I really like this episode is because it is about Richard’s character development. We see his worst fears displayed, which makes him very vulnerable and human, and we also see him break through the perdition spell purely because of his character and his bond with Kahlan. Imo this touches the core of the books. In general about the series, I love how all the characters have a mix of positive characteristics (contributing to the quest) and flaws. It makes them human and provides great character development and story telling.

    I think it is very significant that Richard breaks through the spell without any kind of power. As I already posted in another thread (yes I am full of it ) his personal characteristics are what make him qualify to be the seeker, not the other way around. He is not any regular guy, but he is “Richard”, who is deeply in love with an extraordinary woman, who is chosen to be the Seeker and to pursue the quest, and he will always look for the truth and reality behind things from his (sometimes completely different/unexpected) perspective and act according his own instincts … neglecting traditions, conventions and prophecies. It also makes him kind of a rebel and I dig it. This attitude is what makes Richard “Richard”, and it is why he qualifies to be the seeker, and not the other way around (he doesn’t have these qualities because he is the seeker, but because he is Richard). So I am not surprised he is the first person in 3000 years to break out of the perdition spell.

    Also, I am no too worried about him not having his powers back yet. I am sure that at some point in the future he will get them back. But I believe it serves much better story telling for him not to have his powers or not being able to use them because of circumstances … . I won’t go into detail, but in the books TG makes a big effort to make sure that Richard’s ability to use his powers is limited (by all kind of means). If not, the story would be reduced to “Hi, I am the greatest wizard ever, I can beat everybody. Nice to meet you. The end.” (I know I am exaggerating, but I am doing it to make a point.)
    Really great post Farlotsfan. You echo many of my own feelings. This episode was excellent for the most part IMO.

    Great podcast episode as always Kevin! Thanks again!

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    Albino Mosquito
    Join Date: Dec 2009
    Location: Boston, MA USA
    Posts: 426

    Some very thought provoking comments so far. Thanks for sharing them here gang.

    There's also several excellent thoughts in the main episode discussion thread located here...

    http://forums.legendoftheseeker.org/...2-10-Perdition


    Kevin

  6. #6
    GeeKnitter
    Guest

    Great recap and discussions on the podcast! This was a tough episode for me; I liked the different story lines but felt they were rather jumbled together, like they were trying to fit too much into the episode. I did enjoy the shippier moments, especially the grief Richard feels for the loss of his relationship with Kahlan in his nightmare. The Cara and Leo moments were nice, but I wonder if Leo's death will ultimately cause Cara to rebuild some of her emotional defenses, rather than help her break them down further. I'll be interested in watching how they further develop her character.

    The director and DP deserve big shout outs for the amazing shots and camera work that went into this episode. From the various color shifts to indicate what was happening to Richard in and out of his Perdition visions, to the great fight choreography and staging, everything was spot on this week. The only effect that I found distracting was the strange glowing that would occur whenever Nicci accessed her great powers. It was a bit off putting; here comes Jolene Blalock and her glowing breasts to assasinate Kahlan, but maybe that's just me.

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    demon
    Guest

    The color shifts are done in post by the editor. Kudos for Jolene staying in character with a spider crawling over her. Arachnids are the Demon Hunter's kryptonite!

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    Twilight Being
    Join Date: Jul 2009
    Location: Arizona
    Posts: 96

    Hi glad most everyone liked this episode. Richard ticked off the Prelate when he told her in Dark that he didn't believe in prophecies. That's what brought him to Perdition!! Richard was awesome as always believing in himself, in Kahlan and in his friends. Tell a lie often enough, long enough you come to believe...but those trying to trick him went over the top...Kahlan would never ask the Seeker to die or give up his soul. Mind tricks.
    Also..Richard crying really stopped the heart. I often mention that the storylines get confusing or cutting in and out...but I usuallly think everyone does a good job on that. This one required flashbacks...and then cutting to keep all of the characters going. Just a complex epi.

    I did notice some glitches with makeup for Richard in the desert and I thought some with Kahlan makeup- her outfits.

    Super epi and looking forward to the next one, .........looking forward to Season III also.
    "All that I am, I am because of you." Richard and Kahlan

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